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(Review/First Impressions) Logic Pro on iPad is an absolute must

I know a lot of people here have been skeptical of the release of Logic Pro for iPad, and after using it for a bit, I’d like to assuage those skepticisms because I think this represents the ultimate turning point for the history iOS music production.

I’ve been making music for almost a year now (you can check my past posts, I shared a lot of it here) and I’ve been using Cubasis 3 exclusively to the point where I could draw every page of the interface and every stock plugin from memory. In just about 3-4 hours of meandering about Logic Pro, I’ve gotten used to the UI and almost all the basic features that Cubasis offers, and I can confidently say Logic Pro instantly makes Cubasis 3 obsolete in every way. This is the experience of someone who has never used a desktop DAW, but has always been envious of their capability.

Let’s start with the interface, which is beautifully managed and feels right at home with a resident Cubasis user. Tracks are organized on a timeline, tracks can be grouped, subgrouped, foldered, and collapsed to make organization instant. Audio effects and what not for each individual track are presented in a module strip across the bottom, ala Ableton, and each AuV3 can be summoned in a panel just like in Cubasis. The mixer can also be summoned from anywhere at any time, as can the piano roll for any given track.

Midi events can be looped and dragged, there are about 100x more features and functions with regards to Midi and quantiziation, midi notes can be quantized to any key or scale very easily. The audio processing is much higher quality than in Cubasis, and the collapsible, almost modular UI is incredibly intuitive and far more pleasant to use. Writing Midi notes will take a few minutes of getting used to, but once you get the hang of it it feels far easier and more efficient than in Cubasis.

The sample library and browser is located on the left hand side, and features a SEARCH BAR, a tagging system, and colour coding for instruments, effects, and samples, and can be summoned and collapsed at any time. Audio and Midi samples can be dragged and dropped, and the audio editor is insanely capable. One shots and samples can be loaded into a sampler and played via Midi within a few clicks. These are features we have been asking for for years in Cubasis 3.

The stock plugins and synths are some of the best and most complex I’ve ever seen in any DAW period. Not to mention the over 50GB of free sample libraries and packs immediately available for download, with more to come.

Automation in Cubasis has easily been its weakest aspect. The automation system in Logic is vastly superior, points can be curved and drawn overtop the midi events in the timeline, and automation lines for different parameters are colour coded and stacked on top of each other for fool proof visualization. The automation can be edited directly on the track, or on its own dedicated editor in the midi roll for more precision. All the parameters for instruments and effects are well organized and easily selectable from a menu, and drawing parameters in general is much more intuitive.

A few downsides that I’ve noticed so far is that there doesn’t seem to be comprehensive mouse and keyboard support. I haven’t found any options regarding dedicated bindings for hot keys or shortcuts, and the system settings in general leave a lot to be desired at this time, especially compared to the vast array of settings in Cubasis 3. Little things like the option for the playhead resetting position on stop/start are lacking. Generally, mouse and keyboard work just fine, and most of the basic shortcuts like copy and paste are intact, but it certainly takes getting used to, and there’s no way to zoom in/out vertically or horizontally in the timeline or midi editor via keyboard like there is in Cubasis 3, which has been the biggest pain so far coming from mouse-keyboard habits with Cubasis. On the flip side, comprehensive Apple Pencil integration should open the doors to a more creative workflow for those who use it. I don’t, so I can’t really comment on it. The redo button is also for some reason hidden in a long press of the undo button, not sure why they aren’t just put side by side on the top. One thing Cubasis 3 does better is the velocity controls for Midi notes, it’s interface resembles FL Studio’s velocity controls, and you can sweep across notes to edit their velocity. Cubasis 3 in general has always been strong with editing Midi parameters. Another issue I’ve encountered is routing input/output tracks. For example, in Cubasis, any instrument that produces its own Midi notes, (like Riffler), can have its output set to a different instrument track, say a synth, so the notes from Riffler will be played by that instrument. I haven’t been able to figure out how to achieve this in Logic Pro. But aside from that, I don’t think I’ll be returning to Cubasis 3 any time soon.

This is all just scratching the surface, it will take months and months to even come close to acquainting myself with all the features.

Finally, I want to comment on cost and pricing: some people dislike the subscription model, which I understand. However I will note a few things: there’s a 1 month free trial, and it’s $4.99/mo US (or $50 annually) so you can still try it out for free. Second, Logic Pro should be considered a live service, which means we should expect to receive constant updates, new sound libraries, features, and fixes frequently, unlike with Steinberg, who made us wait almost a year between Cubasis 3 updates that added almost nothing to the experience or feature list. And $50 for a year is not going to break the bank (music production is an expensive hobby no matter how you cut it). Thats $500 for 10 years of Logic Pro. That’s as much as an intermediate version of FL Studio, or a basic version of Ableton, or a handful of desktop VSTs. A lot will change in 10 years.

You should also consider this: now that there is a full desktop DAW available on iOS, developed by Apple themselves, this opens the door for VST developers to rethink their relationship with iOS development. Expect to see more and more popular desktop VSTs ported over to AuV3. FabFilter has been doing this for years, porting all of their popular plug-ins 1:1, and for a fraction of the price. A bundle of all 9 FabFilter plugins on iOS cost $150. The equivalent on desktop is $800. FabFilter Twin 3 being ported a few months ago pretty much refutes the idea that iPads can’t handle desktop synths like Serum and Diva.

For those who have invested in iOS music production and AuV3 software: this is what this community has been longing for for years. A full desktop class DAW with no compromises fully optimized for the iPad. It’s here. It’s great. There’s no excuse, if you have a capable device, download Logic Pro for iPad.

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Most of what makes Logic for iPad great comes from the Mac version. As someone coming from the Mac version, I’m amazed at how good it is and how close to the full Mac version it can get. But what’s even better is what is not on the Mac version: the new Ableton-like plugin view, the new search functions in the browser, the new plug-ins… I’d love to see those on the Mac version too!

Now, there’s a few things missing. As you pointed out, some keyboard shortcuts are missing, including some crucial ones like CMD+R, CMD+A, T+P, etc… There’s also no way to zoom in and out the timeline with trackpad gestures. If you want to interact with your fingers, now you’ll be missing on the few keyboard shortcuts, so it makes it feel like you need both your keyboard and your fingers to interact with the app…

I really love it overall but I hope there will be updates frequently to fix these few issues. We thought Apple abandoned Logic on the Mac too and they ended up making very important updates with Logic 10.5 or 10.7.5 and now they ported it to the iPad, so I’m mostly optimistic about it.

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Literally went to record a demo, tried to download bandlab to check out the app. Then I figured I might as well update GarageBand since I’m more familiar with that, lo & behold I got to the homepage & see Logic Pro for IPad. I almost shed a tear 🥲

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I definitely appreciate the comparisons to your other DAW, and also your very practical perspective on overall cost. Thanks for taking the time to write this all up.

Yessir. At first I hated it completely then actually sat down for a bit and was trapped for hours. I think it's really good.

What a great review. Very thorough. Thanks for sharing. I agree about the price. Here’s my thoughts,

I initially was bummed about it but someone phrase it like you did, they said like this for me and it helped. They said, you wouldn’t bat an eye to spend $400 on a desktop DAW. If you compare that to this model that would be 8 years of subscription costs. Really, after 8 years you’d likely replace your desktop DAW again anyway is the price isn’t that different.

I can very much relate to this as I bought multiple versions of Pro Tools 7 at pretty high price points and then ended up buying 8. Then for years I didn’t buy the updated versions and my version got older and older and more out of date. In that payment model I paid relatively the same price and sure I owned my software but I didn’t get new features and updates. In this payment model not only would I get those updates but I would also not be burdened with that huge initial investment. I kinda think if this new plan as a financing payment plan kinda deal.

The only caveat is price bumps. Apple can up the price and we’re forced to pay it. The $400+ initial payment format means we know what we’re paying and it won’t change. That said, if they’re pricing it this low, it would take quite a few little bumps before it would be problematic really. Even $80 a year would be pretty reasonable for a full featured DAW. I DO WISH that we could keep the software in its current state if we stop paying though. You loose updates but keep the software. I wish all subscriptions worked like this. So far Loopy Pro is the only app I know doing this.

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I'm really only in it for the Beat Mangler sample screen thing. The developer of "Samplr" now works for Apple and I'm guessing this is what he's been working on these last few years.

Over 50GB of content? I downloaded everything and it says I'm only using 14.55 GB in the Logic Sound Library.

Either way, great write-up. I agree; it's highly impressive.

Yeah sorry that was some misremembering on my part

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This may sound like a silly question, but what do you get that’s essential and not available in garage band?

I’m coming from a place where I used to use desktop DAWs a lot maybe 15 years ago, stopping working with them and kinda forgot a lot of stuff, but recently I’ve been using garage band a lot. I haven’t gotten the sound fully to where I want it to be when I’m mixing, but, I kinda figure you should be able to get there mostly wit basic volume, pan and EQ. But… maybe I’ve forgotten something cool I used to do.

And any chance you can export from Garage Band to Logic? Fingers crossed because they’re both Apple, but I could see myself potentially making digital instrument tracks on Garage Band and then recording analog bits into Logic maybe and then doing the final mix and master in Logic… unless that’s madness

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