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(/questions/ask) Ask Question (2012-08-05 19:22:11Z) Asked 12 years, 8 months ago Modified (?lastactivity) (2023-08-25 05:00:31Z) 1 year, 7 months ago (Viewed 72,599 times) Viewed 73k times (3rd party ad content) Report this ad This question shows research effort; it is useful and clear (67:3:31e,16:68ef5733936c9644,10:1743429040,16:667aa7aa6a8525dc,5:59556,5f649112dc6d863767f53634a18b3e23cb14371eb1a19c1997906809c9fe2cb7) 127 (This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful) (67:3:31e,16:ab9b5cdf4397fe4c,10:1743429040,16:972a90e49c0ad9d7,5:59556,0182613a6eba5bcacd5a76870569b1f8d223ba08f7c0eaac237835937be18f93) Save this question. (/posts/59556/timeline) Show activity on this post. I want the Dock completely gone. I haven't used it in the past three releases of OS X (10.5 to present). I want it completely gone, and LaunchBar there instead. Is there a way to kill the Dock so that it does not load or run? (/questions/tagged/macos) (show questions tagged 'macos') macos (/questions/tagged/dock) (show questions tagged 'dock') dock (/questions/tagged/launchbar) (show questions tagged 'launchbar') launchbar (/q/59556) (Short permalink to this question) Share Share a link to this question Copy link (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/) (The current license for this post: CC BY-SA 3.0) CC BY-SA 3.0 (/posts/59556/edit) () Improve this question Follow (67:3:31e,16:64b3a3cd85661c38,10:1743429040,16:57ce996ecc3b3c4d,5:59556,86d2003c335659daac1880d32bd36721cfae06cdcdd588095abcaba0a81e5fec) Follow this question to receive notifications (/posts/59556/revisions) (show all edits to this post) edited (2012-08-06 03:16:46Z) Aug 6, 2012 at 3:16 (/users/10167/robmathers) (robmathers's user avatar) (/users/10167/robmathers) robmathers (reputation score 41,692) 41.7k (7 gold badges) 7 7 gold badges (88 silver badges) 88 88 silver badges (120 bronze badges) 120 120 bronze badges asked (2012-08-05 19:22:11Z) Aug 5, 2012 at 19:22 (/users/1695/everett) (Everett's user avatar) (/users/1695/everett) Everett Everett (reputation score) 3,130 (5 gold badges) 5 5 gold badges (23 silver badges) 23 23 silver badges (28 bronze badges) 28 28 bronze badges 5 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 2 I realise this was a while ago, but your comment to the original answer below indicates that you gave up on this idea. Have you tried the other solutions in the mean time? That 1000 second thing is amazing. I use my launchpad accessed via a touch pad gesture, which I much prefer to using the dock. Maybe you could update your original post with a summary of how things have moved on since the original question was asked. – (/users/122014/geoff-pointer) (141 reputation) Geoff Pointer Commented (2018-10-13 23:50:51Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Oct 13, 2018 at 23:50 (this comment was edited 1 time) No, I never tried the other solutions as none of them would have done everything I was looking for. I just think that given all the other more precise methods of interacting with Finder, the dock is antiquated. I didn't want to spend resources on it. – (/users/1695/everett) (3,130 reputation) Everett Commented (2018-10-17 21:36:04Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Oct 17, 2018 at 21:36 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 1 I agree about the dock and now use my mac without it. It's still there of course and you can still see it in app exposé but my screen real estate is now completely free of it. What is it that still troubles you about using Joonas' solution? – (/users/122014/geoff-pointer) (141 reputation) Geoff Pointer Commented (2018-10-17 22:29:25Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Oct 17, 2018 at 22:29 Favourited. Both for how to do this again and how to re-enable it later... – (/users/50531/robino) (111 reputation) Robino Commented (2020-03-27 10:18:44Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Mar 27, 2020 at 10:18 A simple psychological solution that works for me - move the dock to the right side of the screen. I have basically forgotten it's existence now – (/users/220265/janac-meena) (168 reputation) Janac Meena Commented (2023-02-10 18:40:34Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Feb 10, 2023 at 18:40 (Use comments to ask for more information or suggest improvements. Avoid answering questions in comments.) Add a comment | (Expand to show all comments on this post) 6 Answers 6 Sorted by: (/questions/59556/is-there-a-way-to-completely-disable-dock?answertab=scoredesc#tab-top) Reset to default (scoredesc) Highest score (default) (modifieddesc) Date modified (newest first) (createdasc) Date created (oldest first) This answer is useful (67:3:31e,16:8e83fd5aac3909b9,10:1743429040,16:e585aa928e526332,5:59558,fdb54e879e72c98f3bda3cdb50a76b045111e3dcc0ee9e28b5b5ae257ea4209b) 58 (This answer is not useful) (67:3:31e,16:f285c19e1ad14d8a,10:1743429040,16:9f6ca695f0605dd6,5:59558,9bd44e3c151e35633fcde01a589dc70e9a3f152c8cec3cb7e2f592d0ef4512bb) Save this answer. (Loading when this answer was accepted…) (/posts/59558/timeline) Show activity on this post. The Dock process on OS X is responsible for more than just the actual Dock on your screen. It does a bunch of background stuff, including Dashboard. Most notably, the Finder won't function properly if the Dock process isn't running, so turning it off completely is pretty much a no-go without breaking OS X in the process. The best I can suggest is keeping the dock hidden, and make the size as small as possible so you're less likely to trigger it. You can also position it where it's least likely to get in the way - as you probably know, you can put it on the left, right or bottom of your screen. But you can also pin it to a particular corner, just use the defaults write com.apple.dock pinning -string start command. Type that command in Terminal (replace start with end to change which corner it goes in, or middle to go back to the default), then killall Dock to restart the Dock and apply the change. 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The only options that work currently it seems are left, right, and bottom as seen (https://macos-defaults.com/dock/orientation.html#set-to-left) here . If anybody finds a way to make this work, please update. – (/users/424105/theherk) (151 reputation) theherk Commented (2023-01-12 10:57:31Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Jan 12, 2023 at 10:57 (Use comments to ask for more information or suggest improvements. Avoid comments like “+1” or “thanks”.) Add a comment | (Expand to show all comments on this post) (3rd party ad content) Report this ad This answer is useful (67:3:31e,16:8a4fb66b97df772c,10:1743429040,16:abd3b7e18b95ce1b,5:82084,751feff895aa8b8fee0c119d86448788f7ab95b18e13fddabbb42b1d237ae87c) 118 (This answer is not useful) (67:3:31e,16:b06832af94c9cd68,10:1743429040,16:5216e9dbdee62bd4,5:82084,31020575405c20ef03fca652403cbb788154b21ad6ca6db28aa50f70a5f6b39e) Save this answer. (Loading when this answer was accepted…) (/posts/82084/timeline) Show activity on this post. (http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2012/09/how-to-disable-the-dock-in-mountain-lion/) This article from Lifehacker.com.au suggests setting the Dock autohide delay to 1000 seconds, like so: defaults write com.apple.dock autohide-delay -float 1000; killall Dock To restore the default behavior: defaults delete com.apple.dock autohide-delay; killall Dock The author says he sets the delay to two seconds, so he can still get to the Dock in those rare cases when it's needed. 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This basically gives you full control on when you want to see your dock. – (/users/210764/julien) (121 reputation) Julien Commented (2021-05-08 02:47:34Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) May 8, 2021 at 2:47 (this comment was edited 1 time) (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 2 Perfect. I want the Dock to only appear when I do the "4 fingers up" gesture. And this suits me perfectly. Thanks! – (/users/439140/faruk-d) (101 reputation) Faruk D. Commented (2022-01-24 15:24:40Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Jan 24, 2022 at 15:24 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 2 Setting to ~15 instead of 1000 works for me - if something happened to the keyboard I'd want to be able to get to the dock still in an extreme case. – (/users/197114/freewalker) (393 reputation) Freewalker Commented (2023-01-20 17:54:56Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Jan 20, 2023 at 17:54 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 2 Works on Ventura as well. – (/users/7347/haridsv) (141 reputation) haridsv Commented (2023-02-01 09:56:12Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Feb 1, 2023 at 9:56 I'm on 13.5.2 . This makes the dock stop showing for a few minutes, but then reverts to normal behavior. – (/users/271256/rcorre) (111 reputation) rcorre Commented (2023-10-03 17:35:12Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Oct 3, 2023 at 17:35 (Use comments to ask for more information or suggest improvements. Avoid comments like “+1” or “thanks”.) Add a comment | (Expand to show all comments on this post) This answer is useful (68:3:31e,16:4901343adb8e62a7,10:1743429040,16:8212b876676660d7,6:298826,66d68915bc7924d239ab98851fc6a29049412482cda27bdc7f20769193977025) 34 (This answer is not useful) (68:3:31e,16:9ad90e3a7690d256,10:1743429040,16:0b663ad69004f601,6:298826,400d545c771b8e84bbedb4640d130fe69b9f95b85fe4da6ada1afa86ba494a88) Save this answer. (Loading when this answer was accepted…) (/posts/298826/timeline) Show activity on this post. This answer doesn't really add that much to what is already here, but I felt that the answers offering solutions for hiding it lacked some information. I personally use (https://brawersoftware.com/products/ubar) uBar and I've used the following set of terminal commands without any issues. I can only confirm that I've used these without any issues since El Capitan. I can't remember further than that for sure. To be clear, this only hides Dock, so that you will never have to deal with it accidentally popping up. For those who don't know, these lines of code should be run in Terminal. It can be found here: /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app . Just open Terminal and paste in the lines and press enter. # Hide Dock defaults write com.apple.dock autohide -bool true && killall Dock defaults write com.apple.dock autohide-delay -float 1000 && killall Dock defaults write com.apple.dock no-bouncing -bool TRUE && killall Dock # Restore Dock defaults write com.apple.dock autohide -bool false && killall Dock defaults delete com.apple.dock autohide-delay && killall Dock defaults write com.apple.dock no-bouncing -bool FALSE && killall Dock You can run each line separately as well. Explanation on what each line does: First line turns on autohide As someone mentioned, Cmd+Alt+D still toggles Dock visibility just like before. This is useful if you need to assign application to a specific space. Using the Dock is the only way (AFAIK) . By default when Dock autohide is on, hovering over the edge where it sits shows the Dock pretty much immediately. This line Makes the hover delay 1000 seconds, making it pretty much impossible to accidentally show dock if you happen to hover over the edge. You'd have to let it sit there for ~17 minutes. This removes the bounce animation that happens when applications want your attention or when an application is launching. I've noticed that depending on the Dock icon size, they may peak from the edge when they start bouncing. This gets rid of that issue. killall Dock at the end of each line forces Dock to quit and then it restores itself automatically. This is to basically load the new settings. It's only necessary to run killall Dock after the very last line, but this way it's easier to run the lines separately if necessary ...and in bulk it really makes no difference. (/a/298826) (Short permalink to this answer) Share Share a link to this answer Copy link (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/) (The current license for this post: CC BY-SA 3.0) CC BY-SA 3.0 (/posts/298826/edit) () Improve this answer Follow (68:3:31e,16:79d4e9e5c865f4e2,10:1743429040,16:c994195e9b2feb45,6:298826,644fc20118ab6388348e0aae96f6264d3bcb1293a1d09571875eb70221cb7721) Follow this answer to receive notifications (/posts/298826/revisions) (show all edits to this post) edited (2017-09-18 10:04:09Z) Sep 18, 2017 at 10:04 answered (2017-09-18 09:49:25Z) Sep 18, 2017 at 9:49 (/users/126929/joonas) (Joonas's user avatar) (/users/126929/joonas) Joonas Joonas (reputation score) 2,718 (14 silver badges) 14 14 silver badges (22 bronze badges) 22 22 bronze badges 9 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 1 I'm on 12.6, and the autohide delay does not seem to take effect. If I set it to 1000 and kill Dock, it still appears almost instantly if I accidentally move the mouse over it. – (/users/271256/rcorre) (111 reputation) rcorre Commented (2022-10-19 15:37:05Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Oct 19, 2022 at 15:37 @rcorre, Hmmn... Maybe try restarting the computer afterwards. It should work... I've been using this exact code snipped since like Mavericks on every major version up to Monterey, where it works just fine. I do maybe have some recollection if not always sticking but I can't remember the details of how it resolved. Maybe I ran the commands one by one or without killalle or tried different values first to see if anything sticks. Or perhaps it was the restart... – (/users/126929/joonas) (2,718 reputation) Joonas Commented (2022-10-19 20:16:02Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Oct 19, 2022 at 20:16 (this comment was edited 2 times) Unfortunately I tried restarting after, and the setting still doesn't stick. The dock appears immediately after moving my mouse to the bottom of the screen. – (/users/271256/rcorre) (111 reputation) rcorre Commented (2022-11-14 20:33:18Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Nov 14, 2022 at 20:33 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 1 Oh, sorry @Joonas! I missed the killall cfprefsd bit. That totally worked, thanks! – (/users/271256/rcorre) (111 reputation) rcorre Commented (2022-11-23 18:16:43Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Nov 23, 2022 at 18:16 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 1 Works on Ventura as well. – (/users/7347/haridsv) (141 reputation) haridsv Commented (2023-02-01 09:56:24Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Feb 1, 2023 at 9:56 (Use comments to ask for more information or suggest improvements. Avoid comments like “+1” or “thanks”.) | (Expand to show all comments on this post) Show 4 more comments This answer is useful (68:3:31e,16:09e143fadaa32f8d,10:1743429040,16:666a1c9a849d9d15,6:298821,e0655ea2eb610c853d7804386b67038a1615add30aa384a8add6797a12eb4e0c) 7 (This answer is not useful) (68:3:31e,16:c44d5fc51f11ddcd,10:1743429040,16:61a424eda4be76a5,6:298821,b3085ef9e8e0ed833b842d1657e14670926e8afb8614e4d1a20aba741944716e) Save this answer. (Loading when this answer was accepted…) (/posts/298821/timeline) Show activity on this post. You can change icons size to 1px using: defaults write com.apple.dock tilesize -float 1; killall Dock To restore it to usable size: defaults write com.apple.dock tilesize -float 64; killall Dock Or simply open System Preferences and change the Dock size there. There's a downside though, you can't quickly inspect the Dock if you need to, without changing the size back. 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Now I can just use the icon to toggle the dock. # Check if dock is hidden if [[ "$(defaults read com.apple.dock autohide)" -eq "1" ]]; then # Restore Dock defaults write com.apple.dock autohide -bool false && killall Dock defaults delete com.apple.dock autohide-delay && killall Dock defaults write com.apple.dock no-bouncing -bool FALSE && killall Dock exit fi # Hide Dock defaults write com.apple.dock autohide -bool true && killall Dock defaults write com.apple.dock autohide-delay -float 1000 && killall Dock defaults write com.apple.dock no-bouncing -bool TRUE && killall Dock (/a/408132) (Short permalink to this answer) Share Share a link to this answer Copy link (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) (The current license for this post: CC BY-SA 4.0) CC BY-SA 4.0 (/posts/408132/edit) () Improve this answer Follow (68:3:31e,16:5f9117fe69f4c164,10:1743429040,16:5ae2baf10e1a182e,6:408132,93b1c9dc28932dc38c145d8bb449e0580445dde1f89d3db4b4fa27678ffcc4fb) Follow this answer to receive notifications answered (2020-12-05 21:53:39Z) Dec 5, 2020 at 21:53 (/users/398162/leathan) (Leathan's user avatar) (/users/398162/leathan) Leathan Leathan (reputation score) 141 (1 bronze badge) 1 1 bronze badge (Use comments to ask for more information or suggest improvements. 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