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Future of zerotier - RANT
I have been a client of zt for over 8 years.
For several years I was a paid user until I was approach by a clueless sales department that wanted 1,000s of $$$ or cancel my account. Sign up now or have your account cancelled.
Zerotier is suffering internal chaos as it flaps about with different payment models.
How can we trust this product into the future?
What will be the billing model next week/month/year?
These are not rhetorical questions.
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Free is 100. No wait it's 50. Hang on now it's 25. Wait it's now 10.
Paid is in node packs of five over your free tier. They are $5 each. No wait they are $9.90.
No wait You are subscribed to a legacy plan. Node packs are no longer available. To increase your number of devices you will need to upgrade to the new Essential package.
FFS
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If you're using that many resources you could always self host. It doesn't take many resources and the ZTNet interface is great. I have hundreds of devices and pay $0
Yep. https://ztnet.network/ is the most polished self hosted controller right now. Especially the "organization" feature, which lets separate groups self-administer their own networks.
I do that too. As long as they keep those public root servers going I’m good.
Thanks. I spun up a linode last month and admit it looks fantastic.
I was comfortable paying for the service direct however the business can't decide what it wants to charge.
its a shame to hear this. I was a big fan of zerotier early on and I hoped one day it would flood into the industry.
To be fair, any new tech goes through pricing growing pains. It's common and unfortunately something that must be done right. This is why you see many companies do the 'contact us for pricing' because it does change early on.
good luck folks.
I had the exact same experience and self hosted. Shame , as it could have been great. Still brilliant bit of tech. Like others I would have been happy to continue paying if they’d been reasonable but now they get none of my money. Makes zero sense to me , no pun intended!
Try OpenRport , its self hosted and open source works similar to zt ay
For personal usage, there is a totally free plan.
For business... well you'll have to pay, or you can self-host your own controllers with your own network.
Totally free is only limited to 10 devices though. I'm grandfathered in (17 devices) but for me at least 10 is too short. I'm no company. I'd like to think my setup isn't too insane;
* 3 licenses for my 3 vehicles (gl.inet router that connects to my blueiris server over ZeroTier for dashcam recording, ALPR and data logging (think SDR, wifi and BT wardriving), 2 cars have built-in wifi hotspot, the third uses a netgear at&t hotspot)
* 1 license for my RV gl.inet router so it can connect to my home (cameras to blueiris and remote movie server)
* 1 license for my travel gl.inet router for hotels and such (for plex)
* 1 license to my colo'd server for backup
* 1 license for my seedbox
* 5 licenses for various servers connected to my network (BlueIris, Plex, SQL Server, filesync box, ai box)
* 3 licenses for my various devices (main desktop, garage desktop/bench computer, laptop)
* 2 licenses for my cell phone and my wife's cell phone (mostly just for BlueIris)
I'm afraid when I have to replace/reinstall one of these devices. Not sure if ZT will allow me to add a replacement. I just need to bite the bullet and resetup my environment for ztnet or wireguard. It's just a lot of work and I'm lazy. Lotta config files with static zt ips. lol