Trumna Prime

There are few weapons like that, Trumna Prime is just first Prime Primary like that.

Meant highest. But yeah you're right, probably nothing too noteworthy. Just thought it was something neat

Cedo is great but it's a very very different weapon from this.

/s I didn't know the cedo was a 250 round machine gun with bouncy balls alt fire.

Power creep is bad for a game's longevity. Spamming meta weapons will lead to burnout. Learn to enjoy B-tier and A-tier weapons like Soma Prime and the game will remain fun for a long while.

Why you talking smack about the soma prime? i'll catch you lacking son.

Big numbers activates the happy chemicals in my brain.

I argue the opposite about power creep. There's only so many additions you ca add within a defined "power boundary" before you can't do much to improve game state. Power creep has indirectly helped to buff *many* non meta weapons and Warframe though the various methods included. We're at a point where I can unironically run Magnetic blast on a Heavy blade and get a 120kpm. You told me that 3 years ago I would have laughed and thought you were insane.

Sure, stuff like Archon shards, new Arcanes, Helminth, and Archon mods have made "the best better". But that effect has a stronger downwards power trickle for weapons that have been on the edge of good, or needed more outsourcing help. Saryn, Mesa, Kullervo, etc, are always going to be good. No one really should be surprised when "the kill frames are killing harder." They effectively 4 feet from the ceiling and have little room to grow. For lesser weapons and other frames who are farther from that ceiling, they can make massive leaps. Kullervo is a bonkers melee frame who powercrept melee frames sure. But he offered Wrathful Advance to every melee build and Stat Stick in the game. Now Excal is consistently slapping the room for multi million/damage cap slash dashes, which took way more effort and resources to do before to the point it wasn't really viable. That's a prime example of downwards trickle powercreep. Sure, there will always be some stuff that just can't catch up, but that's *why* incarnons, status and armor rework, and other systems exist. Incarnon power creep single handedly made some of the worst weapons in the game, the best weapons in the game. It flipped the scales.

At the end of the day, Warframe is a sandbox. A sandbox is only as fun as the toys you have access to, and your imagination. Without power creep adding new sources of power and effects, a lot of stuff would be forever locked into it's state, builds would practically never change, there'd be nothing to chase, and we'd be back in the absolutely stale Viral Humu Bramma Zarr days. There would be no way to improve, add upon, or otherwise buff things, game state would grow boring. Power creep is a measure to keep things interesting.

The trumna prime has minimal damage increases on the main fire and a decent power increase on the grenades as well as a bit more status and crit damage. The main improvement is the significant increase in time spent firing from the reload and clip enhancements.

Take that as you will, but for those of us who don't have/care about rivens it definitely is a solid upgrade in performance.

Comment 1 sound like a cope. Performence of what? a mid tier star chard clear maybe. Dedication = Reward. Now that this thing is out, most folks simply glaze it to oblivion(wait a few months). Disposition matters hart, as do rivens on it. The Fact that it has worse scaling is enough to call it mr fodrr or somthing for now. Or you could play revenantskin and run a slaash viral setup

Not a cope just proper steel path performance. I don't have a trumna riven and really don't care to get one so its a direct upgrade to me.

Riven dispo: >0.85x

No, lol. Rivens do not matter on this weapon or its base form. The roll you would need to get on that thing for it to be worth anything at all is outrageously specific, and to accomplish not only acquiring a riven for that specific weapon but to get one good enough to be worth the terrible disposition the amount of effort it would take is better spent on literally anything else.

Obsessing that hard over marginal numerical increases is not not dedication, that's mental illness. Anyway, the fact of the matter is that spending less time reloading means spending more time actually killing things, and the base weapon's reload time is goddamn abysmal. The weapon's damage was plenty high already. This is a massive improvement over the base weapon.

Or both, if you want a minigun.

This gun is not monstrous, and neither was the base version. most of the top tier auto rifles kill faster than this gun, and auto rifles was already a bad class. a lot of its power is given to its alternative fire but the thing is, if you want an aoe gun. just use an aoe gun. this gun tries to be both a full auto rifle and an aoe launcher and is mediocre at both of those tasks. its a shame this got primed over sepulcrum.

Skill issue, unnamed person. Cope and seethe.

LMFAO at least TRY to rage bait, anon.

Well yeah but the gun can easily go steel path without external buffs on the primary fire, so where exactly does your argument stand? What exactly did you try running on your trumna build that left such a bad impression?

The ttk on entry steel path enemies with 0 external buffs is way longer than is comfortable. Especially if you're not solo because people with better weapons or DPS frames will delete the enemies in a room before you can sit there and drill shots into them to even get a single alt fire. The trumna wants so so so so so badly to be the acceltra but just fails because the acceltra just does straight up more damage and it's aoe isn't tied to a secondary fire you have to charge up and doesnt have absurd recoil. The trumna could have really been something, but the upgrades on the primary fire are just super underhanded and because of that the effort to reward ratio for using it is just too low. Atp there's just 3 paths it can go down:

1.) No buffs happen and it remains an extremely sub par weapon outside of niches like zephyr or a bunch of external buffs forcing it to work and it remains a basically forgotten weapon like the normal trumna has been for the last couple years.

2.) They buff the primary fire so it can compete. (Unlikely to happen lol)

3.) They give it an augment at some point and we hope it's good and carries the weapon occucor style

A proper trumna build can kill normal steel path enemies in a couple well placed shots. Does not take as long as you're implying.

In my own build i usually give fire rate responsibility to the companion through reinforced bond so the weapon itself can focus on power. Only heavy units might take longer but sometimes they go down easy too depending on the luck with statuses.

Because people (a fandom user) are stupid... i put a potat in this thing and went straight into steel path conjunction to level it with only a handful of galv mods and no abilities cus i was leveling a frame too.

Its not hard.

It doesnt suck.

People just mald when gun takes 0.4 seconds to kill instead of their gun that takes 0.3.

Parts are tradeable, build weapon will never be just like every other prime weapon.

Lol 4 formas and u are complaining. I can't imagine how low on plat u are these days.

This is an improvement in almost every way. I plan on getting it and sinking a bunch of forma again. The good thing is that it comes with a V polarity from the outset this time so that should save one. Honestly was expecting a sidegrade on this one.

Lmao i have plat, doesn't change the fact its very wasteful.

This has identical damage stats and a slight reload/mag advantage that I won't notice unless I bring Trumna to every mission. Riven dispo is also worse for some reason when incarnons exist.

Min/Maxers will still get it but its intended for those who don't have a Trumna since its better and way easier to get.

The whole prime system making their base version obsolete is getting very stupid. Half the arsenal has become MR fodder. Them being easier to get is also nonsense.

Wouldn't it be great they reduced building times all across the board and resource costs and you actually needed to own the base version to get their prime variants and that they would share polarities across each other.. Half the content would finally serve a purpose.

"half the arsenal has become MR fodder"

Oh look someone who isnt a new player and has hundreds of hours in the game and forgets that it takes time to get the MR needed to play everyweapon at release....

Cute.

They did increase the status chance by 4% and crit dmg multiplier by .2 base

Also the comment above is coming from someone who has a 100 forma truma for the hell of it. The reload was this guns biggest weakness, as it's a massive dps downtime.

Because DPS matters when the room is empty because you used barely half of your 200 rounds on it...

And.... What....? "Just sit there and stare at things....." Dude... You can still run while reloading. Can still Jump while reloading. YOU CAN EVEN BULLET JUMP.

Ladies and gentlemen... I give you the sort of people who make the argument that the reload speed is bad... People who sit still while reloading.

And now he is complaining 3 seconds is too long good lord...

As for the "length arcane ramp up" ... what arcane? What ramp up? If you're talking about the merciless reload buff thats ALWAYS active and if you're talking about the damage.... Alt fire exists... OR being smart enough to target weaker enemies... which you should be doing anyway for the galvanised mods.

Seriously this guys just got to be trolling at this point but im still going to pick him apart like he isnt.

There is exactly one person in this comment section getting "hot and bothered" over the reload speed of the trumna. Their name is Brenton239. Malding this hard over some people going "faster reload, nice" is wild.

Uh huh.... Dude hasnt read any other comment.

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