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Nourish Regenerate health as Grendel absorbs nourishment from enemies in his gut. While he digests, enemies that attack or are attacked by Grendel suffer Introduced in Update 26.0 (2019-10-31) |
 Strength:20% (damage on digestion)600 / 700 / 800 / 1000 (self heal on cast) 1.5 / 1.65 / 1.8 / 2 x (energy multiplier) 100 / 150 / 200 / 250 (  Viral damage on hit)+40% / +50% / +60% / +75% ( Viral damage buff)
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 Duration:10 / 15 / 20 / 25 s (buff duration)
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 Range:10 / 15 / 20 / 25 m (buff radius)12 m (splash radius) | |||
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| Subsumable to Helminth |
Augment
- Main article: Hearty Nourishment
Hearty Nourishment is a Warframe Augment Mod for 
Grendel that allows 
Nourish to remove Status Effects and give him immunity based on the number of enemies in his stomach.
See Also[]
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61 comments
Bonkers, it just works.
In case anyone is wondering, the strength to energy multiplier calculation is as follows:
1 + 0.6 * strength
So at base: 1 + 0.6 * 100% = 1.6x
At 243% strength: 1 + 0.6 * 243% = 2.458x
Forgot to put that those calculations are for the subsumed version.
For the base version, it's: 1 + 1 * strength
How is the ability's damage added to weapons?
As a mod, or as a separate instance? Or some other way?
Separated instance like Xata's Whisper.
How is the ability's damage added to weapons?
As a mod, or as a separate interval? Or some other way?
Pretty sure it's like a mod. So yes, it will dilute the status proc
We can't know that for sure. Saryn's toxic lash applies its own element proc and damage after any weapons themselves, meaning that ability doesn't change the proc distribution of the weapon. It's a separate instance.
In case of nourish, its a mod, in case of toxic lash/xata whisper, its instance.
It's like a modded damage type. It will also take from modded status chance, so make sure you either want Viral procs in your build, or the statuses applied are negligible.
Could someone add a formula on how the energy multi is calculated
((1.5x / 1.65x / 1.8x / 2.0x) - 1)* power strength +1 or something like that, i don't like to edit templates
It is a little bit unintuitive listing and showing values that are not the values used in the simple calculation (instead of saying 50% more energy, which would be simply 50% * power strength)
You have single-handedly answered my question on why my math wasn't adding up. Sincere thanks for showing the actual formula
Recasting the ability does not update its power strength.
Does anyone know if the viral explosion procs on hits taken during invincibility periods (e.g. Hysteria, Landslide while attacking, Absorb, etc)? You wouldn't think so, but arcane avenger and adaptation both count these hits so who knows.
Not sure if i should use Nourish or Shotting Gallery as an additional damage boost on my Rhino. On my current build, Nourish would give me +130% viral damage whilst Shooting Gallery would give +73% weapon damage. I'd say if the viral/slash weighting on my weapons is already fine, Shooting Gallery is overall stronger, is this correct?
Xata's whisper
If you're using e.g. Arcane Merciless and Serration, you'll have 625% weapon damage. A further 73% from Shooting Gallery would be 698/625 = 1.1168x damage. Not very noticeable.
If you're using three 90% elemental mods, you'll have 270% elemental damage. A further 130% from Nourish would be 400/270 = 1.481x damage. Much more noticeable than Shooting Gallery, and if you have less elemental mods on your weapon then the effect will be greater.
I dont think you have a clue about how to calculate it. However was needless to ask here since i could've calculated it myself right away. Did it on a naked Acceltra Prime with 2 60/60 mods equipped to make viral. Outcome: Shooting Gallery 73% boosts total weapon damage to 465 damage, whereas 130% extra viral from Nourish only gives 364 of total damage. So Shooting Gallery wins.
TLDR if you're using a weapon that already has acceptable base damage and/or multiple innate elements (such as Acceltra having impact, puncture, and slash, plus the additional viral from mods in this case) then Shooting Gallery is overall stronger.
bro you just confirmed what the guy above you said. shooting gallery is additive to base damage increasers (serration, hornet strike) so of course if you have any weapon with only the 60/60 mods on, a base damage increase will give more damage, because elemental damage increasers are multiplicative to base damage increasers. its you that doesnt have a clue to how its calculated.
It's official a nerf to the helminth version is coming
Because players have to have a chance to play the game and not have meta-gamers become the norm, turning everything into competition to wipe everything in few seconds before everyone else can get there.
Yeah well, nourish really isn't the go to for speedrunning/wiping fast so that "problem" will still be there..
Bro has never heard of power creep
Still great after the nerf. nothing really changed.
Removing self heal with Helminth is unfortunate
Not really. its already the most broken helminth in the game. they could also remove the viral retaliation or energy multiplier and it would still be insanely strong.
So Nourish does not self-heal but does it still heal allies?
^ No
Just take arcane reconstruct, to heal yourself xD
Damage to Rhino's Iron skin doesn't trigger Nourish explosion, in case someone was curious.
Damn...
That's fucking stupid.. Literally why the fuck won't it proc..? Jesus, DE...
Probably because nourish is a helminth ability and iron skin is now overguard, but used to be complete damage immunity and it just hasn't been updated. I wonder if it procs on overguard in general, then its not just a rhino thing, but they nerfed that into the ground now anyway since it only gives 1 stack.
Istg if this get nerfed please let us keep the viral damage buff as it breathes tons of new life onto old weapons on today's meta without actually costing us thousands of plat for rivens
I too, will be praying alongside you, fellow Tenno...
Did a quick test just in case, the new Energy Nexus mod is also affected by Nourish as expected.
And 25 secs of +6 energy/sec is just 150 energy, you get nourish cost refunded and +100 energy, excelent.
+10 energy regen on valkyr is gonna go crazy, its infinite hysteria
Nope, you can't regenerate energy while hysteria is active with the help of energy nexus,
Since hysteria is a CHANNELED power.
For that, you will need dispensary, equilibrium, and ideally arcane energize.
Skip dispensary, equilibrium + synth decon pet (diriga for priming since melee) + energize is already a LOT
I have been testing things like Molt Vigor, Energy Conversion, etc. and it seems they only apply when the duration expires, meaning that while the buff is active and refreshed it will keep the strength it had when it was first cast... this is both a good thing if you apply those buffs before casting it and then can keep them going with refreshes, and a bad thing if you didn't then have to wait for the duration to expire as a result before being able to give it the maximum benefit
I have found that having minimum duration (slot Transient Fortitude, bam) helps with the above issue but it can still feel bad / clunky / etc. that way at times
This issue is called snapshotting. Its a mechanic found in many games. Any buff that has a duration (like roar or eclipse for example) snapshot your caster stats at moment of cast. Anything with a duration pretty much.
Really good when it comes to channeling skills and void relic buff that doubles your current strength and range.
No. Snapshotting is when it takes your current stats and keeps it for the duration of the buff. Most things do that in Warframe. What he's pointing out is that it keeps the stats it had when you first cast it if you refresh it before it runs out, regardless if your stats have changed or not. That means you need to let it run out in order for something like Molt Augmented stacks to apply on the next cast.
Do conditional affects like condition overload and gundition overload mods aply their damage increase to nourish increased weapon damage?
Yes. Nourish works like just elemental mods on your weapon.
WHY DID THE ABSOLUTE SHITMUNCHERS FOR WIKI STAFF TAKE AWAY MAXIMIZATION PAGES HERE?!?!?! OVERFRAME BARELY FUCKING EVER UPDATES THEIR BUILD PAGES, THERE ARE STILL ARCANES THAT SAY "GRANTS '?' <STATNAME HERE>" AND THEY NEVER SHOW NUMBERS EVEN WHEN YOU CLICK "APPLY CONDITIONALS"... WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY????????????
They explain why - they were prone to breaking, not well-maintained, and, upon surveying, used by a surprisingly small number of users. I lament their absence too, but calm down.
Feel free to step in to maintain them.
I didn't even know there were build pages - perhaps the issue was a lack of visibility.
Context: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Cephalon_Scientia/Sunsetting_of_Maximization_Calculators
Looking forward to Grendel prime making this power eligible for Circuit.
Buff looks insanely good for Titania.
Multiplied damage output for guns due to proc
Multiplied damage output for guns due to elemental damage
Multiplied energy gain from Spellbound Harvest.
Hoping once it becomes less of an annoyance to get, it doens't eat the Nova Special: "there were more people using Nova's power than people using Nova, so we nerfed the power."
I think at this point in time they wouldn’t do that
Much like with Wisp’s breach surge
It seems to be at a good place without giving absolutely ridiculous amounts of damage
There are current 40 frames that have a prime and "would therefore be eligible for Circuit", yet they have not extended the available normal frame selection past 33 available frames, there is absolutely no reason to think they will start adding more frames / weeks to the rotation with the next patch.
I actually never noticed.
I already waited this long though, so I don't mind waiting a bit longer for them to update the rotations.
Is the 2 second explosion cooldown per-player, per-caster, or per-squad? e.g. If I cast Nourish on four people, do we each get our own 2s cooldown and can proc explosions separately?
Individual to each buff instance, surely.
With negative strength, the energy multiplier would reduce the amount of energy I got from energy orb or just add a small energy bonus on top of the base 25?
Small energy bonus. It takes whatever you gained and adds your % strength to it. So if you would have gained 50 energy and only have 10% strength, you get 55 energy.
It's not possible to go below (or even reach) 0% strength and have it be actually negative
I see, thank you. The wiki is incorrect then by stating energy multiplier and not energy bonus (except for the Info tab which is correct)
Well, it is an energy multiplier it's just that it starts at 2X at 100% strength and goes down to 1X at 0% Strength.
I helminthed Titania's 2 (Tribute) off for this, several reasons why:
Only needs one ability cast and doesn't require you to pick up four different things which have inconsistent / buggy / etc. positioning
The viral bonus, energy multiplier, AoE stagger on enemies when hit (and the fact that it also applies the buff to your Razorflies) makes this objectively better than all four of the buffs from Tribute put together
Lantern is great CC and utility by itself, then you have the augment for it, Tribute meanwhile STILL has no augment
Idiot above. There, I said it.
On a less harsh note: you could have 10 Razorflies with Nourish instead, along with 75% increased damage, all reflecting 50% of the damage they take, and enemies slowed by 25%...
My suggestion: Rolling Guard + Unairu's Poise makes Spellbind completely redundant; helminth THAT off instead. Rolling Guard also saves your ass from ALL toxin damage, not just status effect, while Spellind on the other hand won't.
If you'd actually miss the energy gain from Spellbound Harvest (terrible augment btw) then Emergence Dissipate does that better.
Along with increasing their* damage by 75%... reminder that Full Moon only applies to companions and razorflies