Revenant

Grow up bruh

Haven't seen any leeches outside of Dog Days.

Cringe Wukong user mad because they nerfed the autopilot while forcing to get skill.

I don't really see a problem with the initial comment. Wukong is a monkey with a clone that is an aimbot. It's pretty accurate in this case.

Pubs are still filled with Wukong more often than Revenant, lol.

OP here came to check what this mess of a thread has become. People on the internet easily resort to calling the other side "toxic" nowadays on some "take" they disagree with.

I'll make two points here :

1. I don't care what other players use as long as it's not disruptive to others, min-max or not. You can deal GOOGOL damage or be immortal for all I care, just don't "steal" others' enjoyment of killing hordes of enemies. DE follows what I believe here because that's their motivation in balancing "problematic" setups. I'll pull their quote when they balance the AoE issue

Before we get into the specific ‘WHAT’ of the changes to AoE, let’s talk about the broad ‘WHY’ of these changes. There are 3 core reasons:
--Omitted--
3) “Is this playstyle disruptive to other players?” A majority of sessions are played co-op, so ideally everybody gets a chance to play. We’ve reached a point where players are asking us to change these weapons, because they leave so little for others to do.

1. Seeing all of you, the anonymous commenters, putting fuel in this thread and wasting your mental energy instead of just moving along to let this thread drown on its own puts a smile on my face.

Now, I shall leave this thread for good. Op Out.

Nope

Banshee or any frame with Silence.

Lol they gave up when they added Kuva Nukor.

No as long as mesmer skin is on

Yes, the only foe that can easily and consistently kill him is The Fragmented One if you're bringing a sub par loadout and rely exclusively on his braindead gameplay.

Because it may prioritize heat instead of gas for some reason

His oneshot potential is kinda irrelevant unless you're facing something that can't die to your weapons but can die to your abilities.

So yeah, dumb tank, aka weapons platform tank.

I mained Revenant before they released his prime. I dont have a desire to use him now...

Simply put: he is the easiest frame to survive. I was frugal with plats back then, and refused to invest in any other frame. And he isnt that hard to get (his base, not prime)

And this is before shield gating was even a thing at all, which made Revenant godly since he had to press 2 and he became invincible except to nullifiers. His 2 was also stronger back then, it took longer for stacks to run out. 6 stacks was enough for entire mission, now I find that I have to spam 2.

Secondly, his 1 is also absurdly strong. Press 1 to mind control, and it spreads to other enemies, similar to Saryn's 1. You'll have an entire room of enemies under your mind control just with a single press. It also worked on eximus

3 for mobility mostly, but with release of harder content, its now good

4 for meme really.

TLDR: He is the only invincible frame before shield gating was a thing. Also mind control entire room with 1 button press.

How is it fun? Because it just is

Actually nah I take it back. I have a feeling you are trolling. I just kept scrolling and scrolling, and the comments werent this bad

But yes, Revenant Prime is everywhere and I guess you just had to ask why they find it fun.

He doesnt get in your way and that should be ENOUGH

But if you arent joking and REALLY are looking for the answer to your question: everyone has different tastes. Revenant makes you ENTIRELY focus on weaponry and keep shooting and meleeing instead, and not worry about anything else. Essentially why I used him instead of nukers like Volt or Saryn back in the days. If you like micromanagement or whatever, then this frame isnt for you.

He's honestly fun if you use his entire kit. Sure, he's the easiest frame to stay alive, but making Overshield pickups and ways to give survivablity to your team is quite cool.

He can mind control entire room and be invincible, and his augment gives 25% bonus damage for every mind controlled enemy he has. He can also drain shields and health with his 3, which I find pointless since everything died instantly back then.

Nobody cared about Revenant before his Prime. Now I see him everywhere, and the only plausible explanation is that you will whine about literally ANYTHING that is popular.

Dogshit frame is wisp - cus this useless crap cant nuke rooms or just beeing usefull , rev is prefect combo for my ocatvia to save teammates on cascade

Wisp makes you and your teammates not die due to her health boost, and her shock motes is good for stunning to protect objectives.

I think Dante powercreeped Wisp tho.

Wisp healt boost is dogshit in anything above 350 lvl's .bro , wtf, this frame has literaly 0 to offer for teamplay if i compare her to anybody else . speed boost is the only usefull thing.rev is fast as fck + saves you from hits while you have invis from octavia .

Seems like some effects were added to his 3, but those are so simple that you might not notice it..

It does not. Where the camera is is irrelevant.

Define counter clockwise in 3d

Right, i checked taht like a year or two ago, was exited, buuut- it was only a visual change, so i got sad a little bit.

Yeah. We need to post about it in the forums. A lot of abilities that you could cast while aim gliding and still have the anti gravity effects aren't working post that update, like Gara and Mass Vitrify. Really hope it's just a bug that can be fixed and not intentional. I want to fly as a spooky ghost again.

Oh that's why! I usually cast abilities, especially ones with longer cast times and full body animations, while jumping and aim gliding as it decreases risk of being killed significantly. Noticed it wasn't working anymore but didn't know why. (I still recommend jumping during abilities like roar though, standing still for that somewhat short time can pose serious risks at higher levels)

^ Essentially, DE in all their own whopping collective 40IQ if we want even to be generous, raised the energy consumption of his fourth ability so hard and so high at the point of being absolutely impossible to sustain ever for 5 consecutive seconds.

They did "nerfed" his ult because everyone playing as Revenant was doing nothing else than spamming 4 over and over again in the most brain dead way as possible, nuking entire rooms with no effort at all.

Now, the damage scaling of his 4 in normal star chart high level missions isn't all that bad even if it takes a bit too much to kill compared to how much expensive it is to channel this ability for 4 seconds straigth.

In Steel path tho? Oh boy, the situation is absolutely tragic.

Not only it does an absolute dogshit of damage and takes 4 whole years for killing a basic steel path lv150 greener, but it is lowkey unusable without any form of armor stripping at all.

The damage of his 4 feels just slightly better in SP if you have a primer with you before casting the ability, but it still does feels like dogshit.

Lowkey one of the most boring frames we ever had in 10 years, perhaps as much boring as Inaros.

People will usually tell you to helminth his 4 if you're farming in SP for much better and useful abilities, but here's the actual catch: Revenant without his 4 ends to be even more dull, boring and plain useless than Inaros itself, because even if you'll replace his 4 with roar as what many player does, the remaining 50 frames will still do his job infinitely better.

Yeah, you'll never die thanks to Mesmer Skin, but that will literally be the only power your frame's going to have at disposition.

raised the energy consumption of his fourth ability so hard and so high at the point of being absolutely impossible to sustain ever for 5 consecutive seconds

What are you talking about? You can sustain his 4 indefinitely. Just use some efficiency mods if you're having trouble.

That change happened like 5 days after Revenant came out. 20/s might as well be the base energy cost

Lol since when has it ever been good?