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More Fandoms  (https://www.fandom.com/fancentral/sci-fi) Sci-fi  (https://www.fandom.com/universe/warframe) Warframe          Add a comment about Lich System/Progenitor    18 comments   (/wiki/Special:Contributions/185.243.166.131)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/185.243.166.131) (185.243.166.131) A Fandom user · (9/7/2024, 11:46:37 PM) 9/7/2024           Copy Link     Don't think too much about the different element boni.   This is Warframe. You'll farm every weapon with every element bonus at 60% anyway.   No quarter! Move, move!      (/wiki/Special:Contributions/206.83.122.113)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/206.83.122.113) (206.83.122.113) A Fandom user · (9/14/2024, 5:16:55 AM) 9/14/2024           Copy Link      Absolute crock      (/wiki/Special:Contributions/124.246.91.167)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/124.246.91.167) (124.246.91.167) A Fandom user · (9/19/2024, 4:11:17 PM) 9/19/2024           Copy Link      For newer players, ignore the comment. It's better to look at this list of recommendation. (https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1386270-current-best-lich-progenitors-for-every-kuvatenet-weapon-after-‘protea-prime’/) https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1386270-current-best-lich-progenitors-for-every-kuvatenet-weapon-after-‘protea-prime’/       (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) SUPERCEREAL · (10/5/2024, 8:23:58 PM) 2d           Copy Link      OP: "You'll farm every weapon" Maybe not everyone, but many people do that!  "with every element bonus" bffr           Write a reply       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.25.117.234)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.25.117.234) (73.25.117.234) A Fandom user · (9/5/2024, 6:08:36 AM) 9/5/2024           Copy Link     Page doesn't explain much.      (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) SUPERCEREAL · (9/14/2024, 5:33:19 PM) 9/14/2024           Copy Link      What specifically is it missing?           Write a reply       (/wiki/User:ElDiablo95)       (/wiki/User:ElDiablo95) ElDiablo95 · (8/1/2024, 7:05:36 PM) 8/1/2024           Copy Link     Are there any on here that are missing?  (Edited by ElDiablo95)     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/169.239.176.11)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/169.239.176.11) (169.239.176.11) A Fandom user · (8/1/2024, 10:35:01 PM) 8/1/2024           Copy Link      Yes      (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) SUPERCEREAL · (8/2/2024, 5:01:42 PM) 8/2/2024           Copy Link      No. This list is updated as of Jade Shadows, with Jade added as another heat progenitor.  If you're looking for the primed / umbra variant of a Frame, they share the same element as their normal counterpart.  Sevagoth Prime will share the same element as Sevagoth, and we don't know what the Unannounced Frame or Cyte-09's elements are currently.     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.32.24.161)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.32.24.161) (76.32.24.161) A Fandom user · (8/14/2024, 4:55:30 AM) 8/14/2024           Copy Link      Lmao someone really said yes           Write a reply       (/wiki/User:H4L0xHunter1) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:H4L0xHunter1) H4L0xHunter1 · (7/14/2024, 5:22:43 PM) 7/14/2024           Copy Link     I have fixed Oberon. If you think editing this list will change how the game works, you're wrong. If you think it's funny to misguide people, kindly fuck off. Oberon is a toxin progenitor, not radiation. Hope everyone else has a wonderful day!  (Edited by H4L0xHunter1)     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/128.127.116.138)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/128.127.116.138) (128.127.116.138) A Fandom user · (7/14/2024, 7:07:24 PM) 7/14/2024           Copy Link      What about jade ? What prog is she ?     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/128.127.116.138)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/128.127.116.138) (128.127.116.138) A Fandom user · (7/14/2024, 7:07:54 PM) 7/14/2024           Copy Link      NVM, just saw that shes heat            Write a reply       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.151.208.154)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/68.151.208.154) (68.151.208.154) A Fandom user · (7/7/2024, 10:20:55 PM) 7/7/2024           Copy Link     Someone fix please, Oberon got moved to radiation from toxin, among other things       (/wiki/User:Hukin) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:Hukin) Hukin · (7/9/2024, 5:53:05 PM) 7/9/2024           Copy Link      Hey would you be able to point me at the patch notes, where it says that? could not find that.      (/wiki/Special:Contributions/206.75.129.189)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/206.75.129.189) (206.75.129.189) A Fandom user · (7/11/2024, 5:41:50 AM) 7/11/2024           Copy Link      Right now it shows Oberon as Radiation instead of Toxin where he should be      (/wiki/User:H4L0xHunter1) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:H4L0xHunter1) H4L0xHunter1 · (7/14/2024, 7:45:32 PM) 7/14/2024           Copy Link      Got ya covered, friend.           Write a reply       (/wiki/User:The%20Pathogen) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:The%20Pathogen) The Pathogen · (7/6/2024, 3:41:26 AM) 7/6/2024           Copy Link     Any chance we could propose page protection here - at least against non-logined users? I've heard several cases now of people being sent wrong because of vandals having easy access to this page. I've just reverted one such edit before, moving Gauss and Vauban from their correct positions.      (/wiki/User:Cephalon%20Scientia) (User avatar) (User avatar)  (Administrator)      (/wiki/User:Cephalon%20Scientia) Cephalon Scientia · (7/6/2024, 6:13:40 PM) 7/6/2024           Copy Link      Makes sense, done.     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.32.24.161)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.32.24.161) (76.32.24.161) A Fandom user · (8/14/2024, 10:23:42 AM) 8/14/2024           Copy Link      Rip to all the tenno led astray            Write a reply       (/wiki/User:Raida.fox) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:Raida.fox) Raida.fox · (6/19/2024, 3:06:38 AM) 6/19/2024           Copy Link     If anyone's looking for Jade, she grants a heat bonus      (/wiki/User:Cephalon%20Scientia) (User avatar) (User avatar)  (Administrator)      (/wiki/User:Cephalon%20Scientia) Cephalon Scientia · (6/19/2024, 5:06:51 AM) 6/19/2024           Copy Link      Added, thanks.           Write a reply       (/wiki/User:Hexerin) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:Hexerin) Hexerin · (12/5/2023, 3:02:21 PM) 12/5/2023           Copy Link     If DE ever does add the Infested lich expansion in the future, it'd be nice if they also expanded the progenitor system to include all the missing types as well. Puncture and slash for physical. Blast, gas, corrosive, and viral for elemental.      View more replies (/wiki/Special:Contributions/36.71.83.146)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/36.71.83.146) (36.71.83.146) A Fandom user · (5/20/2024, 7:21:56 AM) 5/20/2024           Copy Link      I would stop at blast and gas. Viral and Corrosive will eliminate any form of build diversity we have now     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.234.209.138)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.234.209.138) (99.234.209.138) A Fandom user · (5/27/2024, 5:42:47 PM) 5/27/2024           Copy Link      To be honest, I'd rather see Sentient Liches over Infested Liches. I just think it could be more interesting.     (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) SUPERCEREAL · (7/4/2024, 10:15:09 PM) 7/4/2024           Copy Link      We'll learn more about Infested Liches at tennocon     (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:SUPERCEREAL) SUPERCEREAL · (7/23/2024, 1:31:15 AM) 7/23/2024           Copy Link      (/wiki/User:Hexerin) @Hexerin I have some insane news for you            Write a reply       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.184.87.164)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/67.184.87.164) (67.184.87.164) A Fandom user · (11/26/2023, 9:18:17 PM) 11/26/2023           Copy Link     Thoughts on which is the best kind of bonus?   Maybe depends on weapon type?   I usually do electricity so that I can mod for corrosive, magnetic, or radiation, but now I'm thinking impact would help increase base damage and therefore modded damage.  But I've done heat and toxin.  What do y'all do?      View more replies (/wiki/Special:Contributions/104.173.163.3)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/104.173.163.3) (104.173.163.3) A Fandom user · (3/23/2024, 9:44:39 PM) 3/23/2024           Copy Link      🤓🤓🤓     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.47.163.28)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.47.163.28) (82.47.163.28) A Fandom user · (5/9/2024, 5:22:17 PM) 5/9/2024           Copy Link      Modern internet slang/dialect certainly is something     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.156.202.206)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.156.202.206) (86.156.202.206) A Fandom user · (5/24/2024, 6:08:12 PM) 5/24/2024           Copy Link      Defenition of the word element, 4B on Dictionary.com says "the rudimentary principles of an art, science, etc.:" efectively stating that this is the fundimental basis of a subject. though its probably not entirely true it does seemt to cover most basis of how damage can be inflicted therefore i do believe the word 'element' is in correct use here.      (/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.156.202.206)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.156.202.206) (86.156.202.206) A Fandom user · (5/24/2024, 6:23:16 PM) 5/24/2024           Copy Link      Same guy as before, yes i do realise that magnetic is the one probable exception but i believe that DE needed something to go against shields and one of the devs saw a YT video on superconductors and thought 'yes thats the answer'            Write a reply       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/43.252.46.2)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/43.252.46.2) (43.252.46.2) A Fandom user · (9/8/2023, 7:10:08 AM) 9/8/2023           Copy Link     Im pretty sure the progenitor element for each frame is literally just for balance. there's no logic to it at all and we should stop trying to find one      (/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.168.208)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.56.168.208) (172.56.168.208) A Fandom user · (4/30/2024, 11:04:11 PM) 4/30/2024           Copy Link      Mag makes sense tho.     (/wiki/User:TheFr1edl)       (/wiki/User:TheFr1edl) TheFr1edl · (7/29/2024, 11:58:05 AM) 7/29/2024           Copy Link      Actually a lot of these make sense, but with the missing Elements of Slash, Puncture, Corrosive, Gas, Blast there are some Warframes that don't really fit any current element, so they just stashed them somewhere needed.  Might see updates to this with further incoming Lich Factions.     (/wiki/User:TheFr1edl)       (/wiki/User:TheFr1edl) TheFr1edl · (7/29/2024, 12:00:09 PM) 7/29/2024           Copy Link      Take Gara: she has an 'Impact - Slash' ability (tap - hold) and her Ultimate has no typical element, but the effect is similar to cold. Where she currently resides     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.232.89.156)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.232.89.156) (212.232.89.156) A Fandom user · (9/16/2024, 8:59:18 PM) 9/16/2024           Copy Link      With her mass vitrify she "freezes" enemies within the radius. so cold makes some sense at least           Write a reply       (/wiki/User:TheTerryBL)       (/wiki/User:TheTerryBL) TheTerryBL · (8/26/2023, 4:36:12 PM) 8/26/2023           Copy Link     Atlas is toxin and not impact. Oberon is toxin and not radiation.   ???          Write a reply       (/wiki/User:ManaCloak) (User avatar) (User avatar)   (/wiki/User:ManaCloak) ManaCloak · (8/20/2023, 8:28:38 PM) 8/20/2023           Copy Link     Guys I have this cool WARFRAME concept! It focuses on toxin damage and the weapons it canonically uses are either slash or explosive.     Lich element will be Magnetic.      (/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.182.45.56)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/184.182.45.56) (184.182.45.56) A Fandom user · (4/5/2024, 7:57:08 AM) 4/5/2024           Copy Link      Shut up            Write a reply       (/wiki/User:XarathDominion)       (/wiki/User:XarathDominion) XarathDominion · (2/3/2022, 10:25:30 PM) 2/3/2022           Copy Link     There seems to be a direct correlation between all of these elemental damage types present in the roster, except for Toxin, which is just added because it's one of the basic elemental damage types.  They're all sub-molecular. forms of energy, energy transferral and physical constants. Impact = direct kinetic energy transferral. (puncture and slash are only observable on the macro scale, when an element is actually formed) Heat = Atoms accelerate due to the magnetic force inherent to them, also pulling them together. Cold = Atoms decelerate due to the kinetic force they impair on other atoms and similar objects. Electricity Magnetic = magnetic force. Radiation = the purest form(s) of energy (that we are able to utilize in a "controlled manner")  However, the line up for the progenitor frames is definitely arbitrary, probably due to the fact that DE wants to keep at least one or two progenitors that basically everyone and their grandmother can just go and get right then and there.  Rhino for impact, Ember and Inaros for Heat, Frost and Titania for Cold, Almost the entire electric Progenitor Frame roster, Ivara and Oberon for Toxin, Mag for Mag, Ash and Loki (maybe Mirage) for Rad.      View more replies (/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.78.232.40)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.78.232.40) (82.78.232.40) A Fandom user · (1/3/2023, 6:23:01 PM) 1/3/2023           Copy Link      What are you guys smoking? "Heat = Atoms accelerate due to the magnetic force inherent to them" that's not why brownian movement exists in hot objects...  "Cold = Atoms decelerate due to the kinetic force" WHAT?! NO, they decelerate due to absence of energy. There is no carrier particle for cold just like there isn't any DARK PHOTON  "Radiation = the purest form(s) of energy" SAYS WHO??  Sorry i know we're playing magic space ninja here but god this nonsense makes me so angry     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/177.55.225.146)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/177.55.225.146) (177.55.225.146) A Fandom user · (2/23/2023, 12:33:33 AM) 2/23/2023           Copy Link      ^^^^ scientist anon lost his shit just like me when i read     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.229.107.13)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.229.107.13) (73.229.107.13) A Fandom user · (7/24/2023, 6:04:57 PM) 7/24/2023           Copy Link      This is not real science but instead some retarded 'something' on pure meth. Or maybe a meth formula. I can't tell because it's not real science.     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.201.102.43)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.201.102.43) (80.201.102.43) A Fandom user · (11/25/2023, 4:07:50 PM) 11/25/2023           Copy Link      That whole OP comment feels like some guy who saw a couple youtube videos about science-sounding things and decided "I'll make my own version" like those hilarious anime romantic fan fics.  Anyway Heat = A positive difference in energy. That's it. The stove feels hot because it has more energy than your fingers do, and it transfers some into your fingers faster than your body wants it to (Entropy). Cold = A negative difference in energy. Ice cubes feel cold because they're sucking energy from your fingers (just like the stove, through Entropy), which your body doesn't like. It makes you feel tingly as a result. Electricity = the flow of electrons through a substance. OP described that one 10/10. Magnetic = indeed, the magnetic force. It's one of the four (as far as we're aware) base forces of the universe, but has absolutely nothing to do with heat in the way OP wrote it. Radiation = All it truly is, is particles decaying and releasing stuff. Radiation is stuff moving around with energy, but not "energy" the way you think about it. I'm not sure how DE came to the conclusion that 'oh yes, this turns people against their teammates', but... space ninja stuff.  I'm not sure what "physical constants" have to do specifically with this, but yes, they are into play with this... technically... just like how gravitation and basically every other thing in the world also plays in on this, *technically*.           Write a reply       (/wiki/User:Cephalon%20Rex)       (/wiki/User:Cephalon%20Rex) Cephalon Rex · (1/10/2022, 11:34:08 AM) 1/10/2022           Copy Link     None of this makes sense. It’s just arbitrary. Impact isn’t an element. Nor can you combine elements to create Impact.  So why no slash or puncture “element”?  *throws up hands and walks away*      View more replies (/wiki/Special:Contributions/178.84.223.82)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/178.84.223.82) (178.84.223.82) A Fandom user · (5/25/2022, 6:04:45 PM) 5/25/2022           Copy Link      Wow. Okay, that actually makes sense. Thanks!     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.148.77.80)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.148.77.80) (24.148.77.80) A Fandom user · (11/24/2022, 4:36:17 AM) 11/24/2022           Copy Link      toxin could be described at entropy maybe (it's a stretch)     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.78.232.40)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.78.232.40) (82.78.232.40) A Fandom user · (1/3/2023, 6:19:51 PM) 1/3/2023           Copy Link      Cold is not an fundamental element  What are you smoking bro     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.226.179.161)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.226.179.161) (89.226.179.161) A Fandom user · (2/27/2023, 7:30:00 AM) 2/27/2023           Copy Link      Well there are no fundamental elements, and only 4 basic interactions, soo           Write a reply       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/185.95.162.12)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/185.95.162.12) (185.95.162.12) A Fandom user · (12/18/2021, 5:01:58 PM) 12/18/2021           Copy Link     Why do only like half of these actually make any sense? Atlas' entire design is that he likes fisting people yet he is toxin and not impact??? Sevagoth's abilities only deal either Radiation or True damage (unless you count his claws, but they're mainly slash) but he's impact and not Radiation...       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/27.252.117.36)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/27.252.117.36) (27.252.117.36) A Fandom user · (3/4/2022, 10:56:46 AM) 3/4/2022           Copy Link      You think that's bad? Oberon's whole kit is radiation base yet he's toxic     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/142.162.165.178)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/142.162.165.178) (142.162.165.178) A Fandom user · (5/10/2023, 11:14:00 PM) 5/10/2023           Copy Link      Grendel not being toxic is a crime     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.72.206.172)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.72.206.172) (24.72.206.172) A Fandom user · (6/29/2023, 7:50:29 AM) 6/29/2023           Copy Link      These things are pseudo-arbitrary and are set based on Frame and element usage data and the META that incentivizes using different frames to get the desired element. It's a game dev mechanic, not a lore mechanic. *shrug* I thought it was odd too, but it makes sense.           Write a reply       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/201.176.152.129)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/201.176.152.129) (201.176.152.129) A Fandom user · (9/8/2021, 2:56:27 AM) 9/8/2021           Copy Link     *Note that the (https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Prime) Primed , Umbra or Shadow version of a Warframe share the same element  Excuse me, SHADOW?      (/wiki/User:Cephalon%20Scientia) (User avatar) (User avatar)  (Administrator)      (/wiki/User:Cephalon%20Scientia) Cephalon Scientia · (9/8/2021, 3:02:50 AM) 9/8/2021           Copy Link      As in Sevagoth's Shadow. Since a lot of people have been confused by it, I'm just gonna outright remove it.     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.233.132.92)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.233.132.92) (73.233.132.92) A Fandom user · (5/16/2022, 2:55:31 AM) 5/16/2022           Copy Link      "Umbra" is Latin for the word "Shadow." -_-           Write a reply       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.96.84.96)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/73.96.84.96) (73.96.84.96) A Fandom user · (8/18/2021, 2:38:44 AM) 8/18/2021           Copy Link     Why is grendel impact when all of his moves except pullverize do toxic damage but atlas is toxic even tho he is mr punch guy      View more replies (/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.82.129.162)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/76.82.129.162) (76.82.129.162) A Fandom user · (9/12/2021, 5:28:45 PM) 9/12/2021           Copy Link      Why is Mesa magnetic when she does slash or pun /wtf      (/wiki/Special:Contributions/87.165.204.111)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/87.165.204.111) (87.165.204.111) A Fandom user · (9/13/2021, 6:05:10 PM) 9/13/2021           Copy Link      DE: Why not?     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/136.158.10.37)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/136.158.10.37) (136.158.10.37) A Fandom user · (9/14/2021, 8:37:29 AM) 9/14/2021           Copy Link      Probably because there IS NO Puncture and Slash ELEMENT      (/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.177.146.202)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.177.146.202) (89.177.146.202) A Fandom user · (11/23/2021, 10:18:05 PM) 11/23/2021           Copy Link      But it seems like impact is element :D           Write a reply       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.66.220.157)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/75.66.220.157) (75.66.220.157) A Fandom user · (7/14/2021, 3:35:46 PM) 7/14/2021           Copy Link     Why is yareli magnetic and not cold based of the dmg she does?      View more replies (/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.211.134.33)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/108.211.134.33) (108.211.134.33) A Fandom user · (7/20/2021, 11:05:21 PM) 7/20/2021           Copy Link      I think I'd swap Yareli with Titania, many birds use magnetic lines to navigate (I realize titania is not a bird, but nor is she a penguin).     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/62.131.129.182)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/62.131.129.182) (62.131.129.182) A Fandom user · (7/28/2021, 1:15:43 PM) 7/28/2021           Copy Link      Revenant has a magnetic passive, so he should really be magnetic and not cold. imho     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/47.210.153.137)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/47.210.153.137) (47.210.153.137) A Fandom user · (8/4/2021, 6:04:56 PM) 8/4/2021           Copy Link      But why Oberon toxin..? My man literally only does radiation..     (/wiki/Special:Contributions/47.13.151.206)       (/wiki/Special:Contributions/47.13.151.206) (47.13.151.206) A Fandom user · (8/16/2021, 8:38:49 PM) 8/16/2021           Copy Link      Because toxin has rad abilities in it from oberon           Write a reply                 Community Chat   (https://discord.com/?utm_source=Discord%20Widget&utm_medium=Logo)  2247 Tenno Online  Tenno   Ahmed    AJL1221    Ald    Andrew GVB    Andy. The Random Guy    Askeladd Solheim    aSlothBruh    Axel    b...    Bernard    BiggSmok3    Blushed    c...    ChrisMack (They/Them)    corrupted mindset    Cristi    Cucuy Khan    d...    d...    Daphne Blake    Dom    Doorboi    Duy Long    EpeletixX    Eurelix    Exho    FeedMeWaffles    Fenrir    Frendh    g...    Glacies    Gooqle    HALBERT III    Haven    Hazard Sparks    Inferno Stormfang    Javis.Singkol    John Snow    k...    KeshiOkabe    Kurindrix (Jerry, he/him)    lotus    m...    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