Lavos

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Don't sleep on Gas Catalyze. Prime viral and other things in with other skills and weapons then pop that Catalyze.

Any kind of primer (I prefer Cedo) + Gas Catalyze + Viral Pulse is wiping out entire maps. You'll actually have to wait for the enemies to come back at you for resetting your CDs with 3rd skill

I wouldn't use Archon Continuity on him specifically for stacking corrosive. It's still useful on him for the extra status effect type when scaling damage based on status effect types on an enemy, but with emerald shards, you need 14 stacks of corrosive. You're going to get exactly one "bonus" corrosive proc per toxin ability hit (even with toxin infused 1), and the only ability of his that can reliably hit more than once or twice per cast is Vial Rush.

On the other hand, infusing Corrosive onto Vial Rush works very well, because as it's a non-damaging status effect, it gets the three applications per hit, and Vial Rush's innate cold means enemies will inevitably get stuck long enough to apply plenty of stacks.

I can't overstate how good Valence Formation is. There are so many things you can do with it. The aformentioned 14 stacks of corrosive? Fire Cedo once or twice. Every single pellet that hits will proc a status. Obviously, this applies to any weapon, but Cedo in particular applies statuses very quickly.

200% added elemental damage of any flavor is pretty good in of itself, but it's the forced procs that make it amazing. You can basically take any weapon you want, pick a damaging element, and force procs of it. Grab a Rubico, infuse blast, you now have a hitscan Kuva Chakkhurr. Archguns are an option too, since you can transmute as much ammo as you need for them. Grab a Larkspur and go nuts with any element you want.

Grab an Acrid and apply two forced toxin statuses per hit. Oh yeah. That is why the Orokin feared alchemy.

The corrosive stacks enough with toxin off of vial rush and you get a toxin proc'd for CO and his 4 and with the corrosive projection and the armor rework you don't need to hit 10 stacks to see a big benefit to DPS. I'm aware what valance fusion is capable of, I did say it was great, but you don't need it. I'm saying he is easy to use and if you want to min max everything that's fine but he still just crushes everything without green shards or valence.

I don't like that there's nothing that can properly prime and cover his 4. Off to weapon platform frame instead of caster.

He's still ugly as sin.

Well considering how imbuing his abilities makes them stronger, triggering the passive as a bonus was always going to occur often.

Why is there no valence formation wiki page yet?

None of these are broken. It's following the standard element merging order, in the same way that progenitor bonuses combine- modded elements using mod order first, then base elements, in the order of Heat -> Cold -> Electricity -> Toxin, with the earliest instance of an element having it's priority inherited by any later instance of the same element.

So for innate heat, modded toxin, and imbued cold, the order is Toxin (because it's modded to the weapon -> Heat -> Cold, merging to Gas + Cold. The reason heat doesn't seem to work well in your tests is because it's the highest priority for merging base elements, and you only modded a single element in each test, so heat always combined with the modded element.

The way to deal with this is to mod your weapons with multiple elements in order to control what merges with what. So if you, for example, have Cold -> Toxin -> Electricity modded on a weapon for Viral + Electricity, imbuing any of those elements would retain the existing merging order while forcing a proc of the imbued element. Imbuing heat, however, would cause it to merge and form radiation, as it doesn't have a prior instance to combine with.

Yeah, someone helped me figure out that ruling later. But thanks.

"With how many status effects you need to deal meaningful damage with his 4"

Uhhh... none... Until Dagath released it was the highest damaging nuke of a 4 in the game, doing base 4k damage even without the status ramping aspect.

The level where his 4 stops being enough, is the upper level where abilities aren't expected to do damage.. and from then on it's all about weapons, abilities which add bonus damage to weapons, and abilities which scale directly on weapons (Gara, Equinox, etc).

This comment aged well. New passive augment that imbues weapons is actually officially coming.

Yeah i was about to say that exactly! Increadible augment that is about to make every lavos player enjoy the heck out of their guns!

Ask and you shall receive!!!!!!!

Based Lavos enjoyer

Thought beauty was on the inside? does OP mean Lavos's players are always trolling?

A warframe only people that use combined abilities can play, lol

Great news for both parties! Loki and Lavos getting new augment!!

As a Lavos player, I concur. One duration mod is plenty. If you have the space, Archon Continuity is nice, just so you can make his abilities apply 3 statuses on one go, to prime Catalyze more easily (or just CO/Cedo). But it is not required.

here's some build ideas i can share as a lavos main:

-You can do full umbral set (for more casual play,althought not the most efficient), range and strength. You can go with 200%+ range if it is your thing, but catalyze won't do that much damage to steelpath+ levels as your primer won't cover that much range. Then go for ability strength and swift bite in the remaining slots, while maintaing your duration above 99%. I found combat discipline + nourish to be the best aura and helminth ability (replacing vial rush), as you can run corrosive or other damage types beside viral on your weapons. Roar seems to be good too.

-you can go for ability efficiency,a bit of range and lots of strength, while using arcane reaper/guardian instead of an armour mod, and the swift bite augment. The idea is to use Khora's subsumed ability,ensnare,to group them, primer them, cast catalyze and start with the next group by casting ophidian bite and transmutation probe after ensnare. It's way more efficient at killing mobs with the abilities, but locks you in the playstyle of the build.

-You can also use him as a sort of rare crate/ayatan sculpture hunter, with the helminth ability Golden Instinct with around 200-300 meters, and the orokin eye air support. Go for full ability efficiency, sufficient range and whatever you want in the remaining slots. TheKengineer did a video about this in his youtube channel, check it out if this interests you!

Also,you can use any build to just go nuts with your favorite archgun,since you'll never run out of ammo. Larkspur Prime go brrrrrrrrrr

He's not ugly, his design is just overly bulky.

Hildryn ugly? the shit yo

Maybe in your book he's ugly, I seen uglier Warframe: I can't stand Oberon Prime or regular Grendel (Lunar skin, that one tennogen or go home for now).

My only gripe is the random high heels no one asked for. Seems to clash with the rest of the look but that's just personal preference.

I can tell you at least 5 reasons why you shouldn't wear high heels in a lab but I guess with that logic I should also give 5 reasons why you shouldn't wear a long cape for combat so I guess we'll just leave logic and video game separated for the time being. LOL

My Lavos has about 3300 health and 2600 armor. He also has up to 90% extra damage reduction from Adaptation. Arcane Guardian (+900 armor) Arcane Grace (%health recovery per second). He is nearly unkillable, specially if you have Health Drain in your weapon and use Radiation damage to make enemies target themselves.

OP said endurance. Which at one point in the mission all those numbers don't mean anything cause you're going to get one-shot.

Vazarin is a good option on him for survivability.

to survive decently you must put on a lot of armor and health and this works for most missions in the game "OR" you can lean into shieldgating with the dragon key cheat equipped.

this last option is the clumsiest and least recommended unless you like long duration solo missions.👍