Primed Firestorm

Just tested, and surprisingly yes. Would love if somebody explains to me what causes that.

I actually just learned this. The primary beam creates a 3m aoe upon contact with an enemy or surface. Any enemies in that aoe can spawn secondary beam chains. Primed Firestorm increases the radius of that aoe, thus increasing the number of enemies spawning chains.

(It doesn't always look like there's a bajillion chains because they can follow the same path as each other. Only the chain spawned from the primary target will benefit from multishot. A chain will not hit the same enemy twice, but an enemy can be hit by multiple chains.)

....What?

Shedu and Bubonico are likely bugged, in that case.

And who is arguing that Rifles are weak? Rifles are generally most likely the strongest weapon class in the game. Rifles as a category has some insane options like Latron or Torid, but even outside of those few weapons, Rifles are generally stronger than other options.

High firerate, good sustainability, and low time to kill is very strong in a horde shooter game like Warframe, and most rifles are some mix of this. Supra Vandal is just a regular rifle with not much special about it, but still manages to be one of the best weapons in the game, due to possessing a very strong mix of high firerate, good damage per shot, large magazine and amazing ammo economy. Compare that to something like Kuva Hek, which may have higher damage on paper, but falls far behind in actual performance due to its low firerate and low magazine size.

Rifles are not a weak category, and I have no idea where you got this impression from, you don't need a big boom or a big blast of pellets if you can just hose down an entire hallway.

Perhaps the reason that you feel like Rifles are weak, is because you are running builds meant for other weapons on them? If you run a Viral HM build on Tenora Prime for example, it will perform extremely poorly compared to a Corrosive Rad build.

You want to build weapons to lean into their strengths, not to force them to be something that they're not, and, if you lean into and build Rifle weapons around their strengths, then they will perform much better than you have presented here.

(Bubonico isn't even a Rifle, why did you bring up Rifles and call them weak????)

I understand that pain. for the LONGEST time the explosive bows couldnt use it either. was quiet silly

Naw I don't think it's worth slotting anymore, you're better off putting in more damage or utility/QoL like reload speed.

Why would they release the shotgun version of this mod alongside a patch that nerfs AoE into the ground? That wouldn't make any sense. They are actively destroying AoE, not expanding.

Cautious Shot in the exilus slot also works wonders with Pain Threshold

I've been using a sheet I made to calculate AoE and damages if anyone wants to know that https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iHzHQSTnD40Ij05GjuP3C5xFedhJWTLiz6Xd7Sd8KrA/edit#gid=1113077314

I never grabbed it either, but it will be back within the next 6-12 months, that's how it normally works. Fools selling it for 500p on WF market, just be patient. Plenty of fun weapons that don't need a niche meme mod like this to be effective. You're weapon will be just fine waiting for you until then. :)

Yeah, I am using the regular Firestorm. lmao

Update: Baro just answered my prayer, my dude!

Its usable on every rifle, but only has an effect on the ones with explosives

Sure but...why would you?

Weapons are already overkill in starchart, one shotting more mobs in a single shot is better. The only scenario Firestorm is not needed is against bosses, against nobody will take an aoe weapon anyway

Imo firestorm is just part of the mandatory mods for most aoe based weapons

Well, there are weapons with self stagger or even self dmg within aoe area, this could make some weapons very difficult to use in some maps.