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(/questions/ask) Ask Question (2015-01-10 18:29:53Z) Asked 9 years, 7 months ago Modified (?lastactivity) (2022-11-18 07:49:00Z) 1 year, 9 months ago (Viewed 260,234 times) Viewed 260k times Part of (/collectives/ci-cd) CI/CD Collective This question shows research effort; it is useful and clear (70:3:31e,16:bc81d51b6b5cab6f,10:1725247413,16:1c71600997641584,8:27879713,f4f0598c5014da93ab5108f9be0895817f4377832ea4ce7480613b27bb85e589) 357 (This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful) (70:3:31e,16:89d9785fcba16813,10:1725247413,16:21ff7a37c9a9027b,8:27879713,46b4c550b63b68423fa67b015ca9b82b627f984559c4a784f6e390ef8fd55035) Save this question. (/posts/27879713/timeline) Show activity on this post. I'm running Jenkins inside a Docker container. I wonder if it's ok for the Jenkins container to also be a Docker host? What I'm thinking about is to start a new docker container for each integration test build from inside Jenkins (to start databases, message brokers etc). The containers should thus be shutdown after the integration tests are completed. Is there a reason to avoid running docker containers from inside another docker container in this way? 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That lets you create "sibling" containers and has the advantage of being able to reuse the cache. – (/users/4332/adrian-mouat) (46,070 reputation) Adrian Mouat Commented (2015-01-10 19:59:42Z, License: CC BY-SA 3.0) Jan 10, 2015 at 19:59 (this comment was edited 2 times) (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 8 I've found that when using the docker socket from the host that in cases where I want to mount external volumes it's necessary to set the volume path relative to the host as that is where the docker daemon runs. Setting it relative to the container that starts containers will not necessarily work unless paths coincide. – (/users/448591/jakob-runge) (2,313 reputation) Jakob Runge Commented (2016-03-01 15:50:25Z, License: CC BY-SA 3.0) Mar 1, 2016 at 15:50 (Use comments to ask for more information or suggest improvements. Avoid answering questions in comments.) Add a comment | (Expand to show all comments on this post) 5 Answers 5 Sorted by: (/questions/27879713/is-it-ok-to-run-docker-from-inside-docker?answertab=scoredesc#tab-top) Reset to default (scoredesc) Highest score (default) (trending) Trending (recent votes count more) (modifieddesc) Date modified (newest first) (createdasc) Date created (oldest first) This answer is useful (70:3:31e,16:29c9c3bf0653a08b,10:1725247413,16:4a04b85049eb3097,8:33003273,857303420501d8945b5d871aef074de74bf60b120f8065969dbfee361dd17b6c) 397 (This answer is not useful) (70:3:31e,16:28d1ecf544054a52,10:1725247413,16:a23343920d119360,8:33003273,6467a6d7eb648f2cf8e43b6af07d2b00e335d2ee1585c788c17e3784a0a6aefd) Save this answer. (Loading when this answer was accepted…) (/posts/33003273/timeline) Show activity on this post. Running Docker inside Docker (a.k.a. dind ), while possible, should be avoided, if at all possible. (Source provided below.) Instead, you want to set up a way for your main container to produce and communicate with sibling containers. (http://jpetazzo.github.io/) Jérôme Petazzoni — the author of the feature that made it possible for Docker to run inside a Docker container — actually wrote (https://jpetazzo.github.io/2015/09/03/do-not-use-docker-in-docker-for-ci/) a blog post saying not to do it . The use case he describes matches the OP's exact use case of a CI Docker container that needs to run jobs inside other Docker containers. Petazzoni lists two reasons why dind is troublesome: It does not cooperate well with Linux Security Modules (LSM). It creates a mismatch in file systems that creates problems for the containers created inside parent containers. From that blog post, he describes the following alternative, [The] simplest way is to just expose the Docker socket to your CI container, by bind-mounting it with the -v flag. Simply put, when you start your CI container (Jenkins or other), instead of hacking something together with Docker-in-Docker, start it with: docker run -v /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock ... Now this container will have access to the Docker socket, and will therefore be able to start containers. Except that instead of starting "child" containers, it will start "sibling" containers. 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Thanks – (/users/1259118/c4k) (4,338 reputation) c4k Commented (2016-10-21 17:18:52Z, License: CC BY-SA 3.0) Oct 21, 2016 at 17:18 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 10 You need to add user to docker group: sudo usermod -aG docker $USER . You'll need to relog after that. – (/users/4088037/predmijat) (4,094 reputation) predmijat Commented (2016-12-04 09:12:07Z, License: CC BY-SA 3.0) Dec 4, 2016 at 9:12 (this comment was edited 1 time) (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 3 How to relog from within a cointainer? – (/users/1745064/thiagowfx) (5,313 reputation) thiagowfx Commented (2017-07-10 20:45:48Z, License: CC BY-SA 3.0) Jul 10, 2017 at 20:45 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 4 what about windows? i dont have /var/run/docker.sock – (/users/2657814/abdelhafid) (899 reputation) Abdelhafid Commented (2017-11-11 09:05:40Z, License: CC BY-SA 3.0) Nov 11, 2017 at 9:05 (number of 'useful comment' votes received) 10 (https://jpetazzo.github.io/2015/09/03/do-not-use-docker-in-docker-for-ci/) Jérôme Petazzoni changed his opinion (2020) because there are new tools like (https://github.com/nestybox/sysbox) sysbox that make it more convenient. He updated his blog post linked in the answer reflecting this. – (/users/4712865/volkit) (1,511 reputation) volkit Commented (2020-12-07 15:34:40Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Dec 7, 2020 at 15:34 (Use comments to ask for more information or suggest improvements. Avoid comments like “+1” or “thanks”.) | (Expand to show all comments on this post) Show 14 more comments This answer is useful (70:3:31e,16:bc1c01aa0aec35f3,10:1725247413,16:c918c9b3bc038b22,8:27879751,8986c42408c7972a2526618b424e18b426ee38be806c5515d1acb75dcb6644ac) 76 (This answer is not useful) (70:3:31e,16:0b5a04f91f5a0305,10:1725247413,16:38796db19b41c669,8:27879751,a1694534037a8e4a55af71e6adae27eccdbfda04863b6fbc457b1174c3bcbb04) Save this answer. (Loading when this answer was accepted…) (/posts/27879751/timeline) Show activity on this post. I answered a similar question before on (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27721178/is-it-possible-to-create-a-docker-container-that-contains-one-or-more-containers/27721929#27721929) how to run a Docker container inside Docker . To run docker inside docker is definitely possible. The main thing is that you run the outer container with (https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/commandline/run/#full-container-capabilities-privileged) extra privileges (starting with --privileged=true ) and then install docker in that container. Check this blog post for more info: (http://blog.docker.com/2013/09/docker-can-now-run-within-docker/) Docker-in-Docker . One potential use case for this is described in (https://dantehranian.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/building-docker-images-within-docker-containers-via-jenkins/) this entry . The blog describes how to build docker containers within a Jenkins docker container. However, Docker inside Docker it is not the recommended approach to solve this type of problems. Instead, the recommended approach is to create "sibling" containers as (https://jpetazzo.github.io/2015/09/03/do-not-use-docker-in-docker-for-ci/) described in this post So, running Docker inside Docker was by many considered as a good type of solution for this type of problems. Now, the trend is to use "sibling" containers instead. See (/a/33003273/2138993) the answer by @predmijat on this page for more info. 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Bot (reputation score) 1 (1 silver badge) 1 1 silver badge answered (2015-01-10 18:33:00Z) Jan 10, 2015 at 18:33 (/users/2138993/wassgren) (wassgren's user avatar) (/users/2138993/wassgren) wassgren wassgren (reputation score 19,111) 19.1k (6 gold badges) 6 6 gold badges (65 silver badges) 65 65 silver badges (79 bronze badges) 79 79 bronze badges 2 See the comment below about avoiding docker in docker. – (/users/1154039/dan-poltawski) (575 reputation) Dan Poltawski Commented (2016-08-18 06:46:15Z, License: CC BY-SA 3.0) Aug 18, 2016 at 6:46 notice that this is not supported in Docker Swarm – (/users/681063/sam) (926 reputation) Sam Commented (2022-01-18 09:45:54Z, License: CC BY-SA 4.0) Jan 18, 2022 at 9:45 (Use comments to ask for more information or suggest improvements. Avoid comments like “+1” or “thanks”.) Add a comment | (Expand to show all comments on this post) This answer is useful (70:3:31e,16:a59a8a412e29364c,10:1725247413,16:afc49491adb21322,8:57999881,2f590b79ef926e780361381cfa80e71fa4f5fdd7ca86f36666a44a69647f3a6c) 24 (This answer is not useful) (70:3:31e,16:46fc4a7465595835,10:1725247413,16:115e7099301d544d,8:57999881,85e2f00a1e762e0fc147f50d9ef8dce748f06c4041d08661303d3b0a92715b15) Save this answer. (Loading when this answer was accepted…) (/posts/57999881/timeline) Show activity on this post. It's OK to run Docker-in-Docker (DinD) and in fact Docker (the company) has an (https://hub.docker.com/_/docker) official DinD image for this. The caveat however is that it requires a privileged container, which depending on your security needs may not be a viable alternative. The alternative solution of running Docker using sibling containers (aka Docker-out-of-Docker or DooD) does not require a privileged container, but has a few drawbacks that stem from the fact that you are launching the container from within a context that is different from that one in which it's running (i.e., you launch the container from within a container, yet it's running at the host's level, not inside the container). I wrote a blog describing the pros/cons of DinD vs DooD (https://blog.nestybox.com/2019/09/13/dind.html) here . Having said this, Nestybox (a startup I just founded) is working on a solution that runs true Docker-in-Docker securely (without using privileged containers). You can check it out at (https://www.nestybox.com) www.nestybox.com . 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Add a comment | (Expand to show all comments on this post) This answer is useful (70:3:31e,16:e3a7d330b1b5402b,10:1725247413,16:9d028c4531559964,8:61406232,6037890cc4f1b8f9ddc2dd9cf06965a399ddaa121d564619fdaa0af0e0aadd3d) 12 (This answer is not useful) (70:3:31e,16:8f939e1f32c424a3,10:1725247413,16:e4ccd9e95cf221ed,8:61406232,57b394cf379019ddf2d01466db650f830b12225f724ebc980b99b463697b221e) Save this answer. (Loading when this answer was accepted…) (/posts/61406232/timeline) Show activity on this post. Yes, we can run docker in docker, we'll need to attach the unix socket /var/run/docker.sock on which the docker daemon listens by default as volume to the parent docker using -v /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock . Sometimes, permissions issues may arise for docker daemon socket for which you can write sudo chmod 757 /var/run/docker.sock . And also it would require to run the docker in privileged mode, so the commands would be: sudo chmod 757 /var/run/docker.sock docker run --privileged=true -v /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock -it ... 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(Which never ever works for me) The solution I found was to use Nestybox on my Ubuntu 20.04 system and it works best. Its also extremely simple to execute, provided your local system is ubuntu (which they support best), as the container runtime are specifically deigned for such application. It also has the most flexible options. The free edition of Nestybox is perhaps the best method as of Nov 2022. Highly recommends you to try it without bothering all the tedious setup other people suggest. They have many pre-constructed solutions to address such specific needs with a simple command line. The Nestybox provide special runtime environment for newly created docker container, they also provides some ubuntu/common OS images with docker and systemd in built. Their goal is to make the main container function exactly the same as a virtual machine securely. You can literally ssh into your ubuntu main container as well without the ability to access anything in the main machine. From your main container you may create all kinds of containers like a normal local system does. That systemd is very important for you to setup docker conveniently inside the container. 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