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Unraid Built-In (pro) the availability of the  community apps plugin (pro) the ability to easily get to the webui, console, or logs of a container (pro) docker-folders makes organizing easy (pro) ease of updates (cons) have to remember which containers start first docker-compose (pro) the ability to quickly rebuild the setup with just a file (pro) the ability to use dependencies to adjust the autostart order (pro) appears like it shows up with the other dockers (cons) harder to access the webui, console, or logs of a container portainer (pro) all the abilities of docker-compose with a nice ui I don't think I want to add another UI so portainer is out unless it offers something more.  All this leaves me more or less even between docker-compose and the unraid built-in.  I really like the ability of the dependencies and the recovery if something happens to my server that docker-compose provides.  However I use the webui button all the time and the logs in invaluable for troubleshooting. Does any one here have any hands on experience to add that might sway this one way of the other? Is there a feature or complication not listed here worth knowing? 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(https://forums.unraid.net/topic/124332-unraid-gui-vs-docker-compose-vs-portainer/?do=findComment&comment=1395671) (Share this post) Share (https://forums.unraid.net/topic/124332-unraid-gui-vs-docker-compose-vs-portainer/?do=findComment&comment=1395671) Posted (03/28/2024 02:47 PM) March 28 (//forums.unraid.net/?app=core&module=system&controller=content&do=find&content_class=forums_Topic&content_id=124332&content_commentid=1395534) On 3/28/2024 at 4:55 PM, (//forums.unraid.net/?app=core&module=members&controller=profile&id=271767) kcossabo said: Now if there was a way to expose the webUI to unRAID for a container built by Portainer, that would ROCK, and I might eliminate my 'homer' launch page. I think what you are looking for is the label "net.unraid.docker.webui". You can apply this label to a container created by Portainer (or any other container creation method) and set its value to the url of your container and unRAID will show a WebUi button for the container. There is also a "net.unraid.docker.icon" for setting an icon (url to the icon) and "net.unraid.docker.shell" for setting the shell option (bash for example). Important to note there is a bit of buggy behavior with these labels in that unRAID caches the value and subsequent changes are not reflected in the ui. So essentially you get one shot at setting these things, make sure they are correct before spinning up a container with one (it is possible to wipe the cached value but its not as simple as a page refresh). (Like) (Like) 1 (Upvote) (Upvote) 1 (MultiQuote) Quote Link to comment (https://forums.unraid.net/topic/124332-unraid-gui-vs-docker-compose-vs-portainer/?do=findComment&comment=1395671) 1 month later... 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(https://forums.unraid.net/topic/124332-unraid-gui-vs-docker-compose-vs-portainer/?do=findComment&comment=1412351) (Share this post) Share (https://forums.unraid.net/topic/124332-unraid-gui-vs-docker-compose-vs-portainer/?do=findComment&comment=1412351) Posted (04/30/2024 06:21 PM) April 30 (//forums.unraid.net/?app=core&module=system&controller=content&do=find&content_class=forums_Topic&content_id=124332&content_commentid=1395671) On 3/28/2024 at 7:47 PM, (//forums.unraid.net/?app=core&module=members&controller=profile&id=63584) primeval_god said: I think what you are looking for is the label "net.unraid.docker.webui". You can apply this label to a container created by Portainer (or any other container creation method) and set its value to the url of your container and unRAID will show a WebUi button for the container. There is also a "net.unraid.docker.icon" for setting an icon (url to the icon) and "net.unraid.docker.shell" for setting the shell option (bash for example). Is there any documentation for these (plus any other) docker labels out side of forum posts? 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